Seasons of Joy

Somewhere in midlife, most of us hit a moment where we realize we've spent decades being who everyone needed us to be but we've lost track of who we actually are. In this episode, certified life + relationship coach Jill Pack introduces the Enneagram and explains why midlife might be the most powerful time to finally explore it. Whether you're in the thick of a midlife identity shift or just starting to ask bigger questions about who you are, this episode will help you stop running from yourself and start living from yourself.
📚 Resources mentioned:
The Road Back to You by Ian Morgan Cron & Suzanne Stabile
The Wisdom of the Enneagram by Don Richard Risso & Russ Hudson
enneagraminstitute.com
truity.com
🎙️ Seasons of Joy Podcast with Jill Pack | Episode 201
✨ Life + relationship coaching for midlife women of faith
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To join the Conflict to Connection Challenge: https://www.seasons-coaching.com/conflict-to-connection-30-day-challenge
Are you ready to take it to a deeper level?  Jill would love to be your coach!  
Click HERE to learn about all the ways you can work together!
Click HERE to schedule a FREE Clarity Conversation with Jill.
Click on the following links to learn more about Seasons Coaching and the Seasons of Joy Community Facebook Group.
To contact Jill about speaking to your group or business, email her at jill@seasons-coaching.com.
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About the Host: Jill Pack is a certified faith-based life + relationship coach and member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She helps women of faith navigate their seasons of life with greater purpose and joy including how to transform conflict into connection. For more resources or to work with Jill, visit www.seasons-coaching.com.
 

Are you exhausted in your relationships but can't figure out why? In this episode, we explore the difference between being mindful of someone's feelings and managing them — and why that distinction changes everything. If you've ever walked on eggshells, rehearsed conversations in your head, or felt responsible for keeping everyone around you okay, this one is for you. | Seasons of Joy Podcast Ep. 200
Want More Clarity?
To join the Conflict to Connection Challenge: https://www.seasons-coaching.com/conflict-to-connection-30-day-challenge
Are you ready to take it to a deeper level?  Jill would love to be your coach!  
Click HERE to learn about all the ways you can work together!
Click HERE to schedule a FREE Clarity Conversation with Jill.
Click on the following links to learn more about Seasons Coaching and the Seasons of Joy Community Facebook Group.
To contact Jill about speaking to your group or business, email her at jill@seasons-coaching.com.
Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast and rate and leave a review! Help spread these tools!
About the Host: Jill Pack is a certified faith-based life + relationship coach and member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She helps women of faith navigate their seasons of life with greater purpose and joy including how to transform conflict into connection. For more resources or to work with Jill, visit www.seasons-coaching.com.
 
 

Jill Pack shares a short hiking story about a discarded beer can and a lost water bottle that becomes a vivid metaphor for how we judge others while missing our own blind spots.
She invites listeners to notice where their judgment is an echo of their own behavior, practice curiosity and compassion, and choose clear-eyed, grace-filled connection in relationships.
Want More Clarity?
To join the Conflict to Connection Challenge: https://www.seasons-coaching.com/conflict-to-connection-30-day-challenge
Are you ready to take it to a deeper level?  Jill would love to be your coach!  
Click HERE to learn about all the ways you can work together!
Click HERE to schedule a FREE Clarity Conversation with Jill.
Click on the following links to learn more about Seasons Coaching and the Seasons of Joy Community Facebook Group.
To contact Jill about speaking to your group or business, email her at jill@seasons-coaching.com.
Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast and rate and leave a review! Help spread these tools!
About the Host: Jill Pack is a certified faith-based life + relationship coach and member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She helps women of faith navigate their seasons of life with greater purpose and joy including how to transform conflict into connection. For more resources or to work with Jill, visit www.seasons-coaching.com.
 

What do you do when the life you carefully planned looks nothing like the one you're actually living? In this episode Jill Pack talks with coach Chris Rich about navigating a mixed-faith marriage and children leaving the church, and how nervous system work shifted her from fear and control to connection and joy.
They discuss "bear mode" and "turtle mode," practical tools to find regulation and the "window of tolerance," and how to hold love, grief, and hope together while building a rich, imperfect family life.
Learn more about Chris Rich:
https://www.chrisrichcoaching.com/https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mixed-faith-relationship-podcast/id1627333149https://www.instagram.com/chrisrichcoaching/?hl=enhttps://www.facebook.com/chrisrichcoaching/
 
Want More Clarity?
To join the Conflict to Connection Challenge: https://www.seasons-coaching.com/conflict-to-connection-30-day-challenge
Are you ready to take it to a deeper level?  Jill would love to be your coach!  
Click HERE to learn about all the ways you can work together!
Click HERE to schedule a FREE Clarity Conversation with Jill.
Click on the following links to learn more about Seasons Coaching and the Seasons of Joy Community Facebook Group.
To contact Jill about speaking to your group or business, email her at jill@seasons-coaching.com.
Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast and rate and leave a review! Help spread these tools!
About the Host: Jill Pack is a certified faith-based life + relationship coach and member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She helps women of faith navigate their seasons of life with greater purpose and joy including how to transform conflict into connection. For more resources or to work with Jill, visit www.seasons-coaching.com.
 

What actually makes the tools of personal growth and conflict transformation work?
In this Easter episode, life + relationship coach Jill Pack gets honest about the answer: it's not the framework. It's never just been the framework.
In Episode 197, Jill shares how her journey through identity, marriage, motherhood, and the empty nest led her to one conviction — that grace is the source of real change, and joy is its fruit. She explores how the inner work of seeing yourself clearly, accepting where you are, and learning to trust yourself isn't separate from faith. It is faith. If you've ever wondered why self-awareness matters spiritually, or how loving yourself well makes you better at loving others — this episode is for you.
🌿 Topics covered:
Why conflict transformation always flows inward first
The connection between grace, joy, and the C.A.R.E. framework
What Easter means for the women still figuring it out Loving without gripping — in marriage, parenting, and the empty nest
He didn't rise after we got our act together. He rose in the middle of our mess.
Want More Clarity?
To join the Conflict to Connection Challenge: https://www.seasons-coaching.com/conflict-to-connection-30-day-challenge
Are you ready to take it to a deeper level?  Jill would love to be your coach!  
Click HERE to learn about all the ways you can work together!
Click HERE to schedule a FREE Clarity Conversation with Jill.
Click on the following links to learn more about Seasons Coaching and the Seasons of Joy Community Facebook Group.
To contact Jill about speaking to your group or business, email her at jill@seasons-coaching.com.
Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast and rate and leave a review! Help spread these tools!
About the Host: Jill Pack is a certified faith-based life + relationship coach and member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She helps women of faith navigate their seasons of life with greater purpose and joy including how to transform conflict into connection. For more resources or to work with Jill, visit www.seasons-coaching.com.

Have you ever stood in front of a piece of art and felt something you couldn't quite put into words? Not just appreciation — but something deeper. Something that made you feel seen? That's exactly what happens when people encounter the work of today's guest, watercolor artist Kate Lee.
Kate paints Christ-centered images — and what makes them so distinctive is that the figures in her paintings don't have faces. That's intentional. She wants you to be able to place yourself in the painting. To feel like you belong there. Because her whole life's work is about helping people believe — really believe — that they are known, loved, and not forgotten. In this conversation,
Kate shares how a quiet nudge from the Spirit sent her from swim coach to full-time artist, how submitting her work to Deseret Book led to something she never could have planned, and how painting has become one of her most sacred ways of drawing closer to the Savior.
She also talks about her newest book, The Gift of the Seed — a beautiful Easter story about how loved we truly are. This is a conversation about courage, about listening, and about what happens when we stop hiding our gifts and start sharing them.
More about Kate Lee:
Kate Lee is a Deseret Book watercolor artist. She was picked up by Deseret Book in 2018 for her minimalistic style paintings of the Savior.
Kate is married to her best friend Mike and together they have two boys Jackson and Cooper. They have lived in Layton Utah for the past 12 years and love being close to the mountains.
Kate is not only a watercolor artist, but an avid mountain biker, hiker, adventurer. Her and her little family try to soak up as much Mother Nature as they can. Being outside helps Kate to feel grounded and more connected with her Heavenly Parents and Savior. Some of her greatest inspirations have come because of the time spent in nature.
Kate loves people and loves to hug those people. She feels she was blessed with a 6 foot wingspan to hug those around her and help others feel the love the God has for them. She loves her Savior. She loves this gospel. And she hopes to spread light as she goes through out her life.
Website: https://katelee.art
Instagram: @kate_lee_art
The Gift of the Seed 
Connecting with Christ: 
Want More Clarity?
To join the Conflict to Connection Challenge: https://www.seasons-coaching.com/conflict-to-connection-30-day-challenge
Are you ready to take it to a deeper level?  Jill would love to be your coach!  
Click HERE to learn about all the ways you can work together!
Click HERE to schedule a FREE Clarity Conversation with Jill.
Click on the following links to learn more about Seasons Coaching and the Seasons of Joy Community Facebook Group.
To contact Jill about speaking to your group or business, email her at jill@seasons-coaching.com.
Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast and rate and leave a review! Help spread these tools!
About the Host: Jill Pack is a certified faith-based life + relationship coach and member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She helps women of faith navigate their seasons of life with greater purpose and joy including how to transform conflict into connection. For more resources or to work with Jill, visit www.seasons-coaching.com.

Last September, I began a certification program on the nervous system with Leah Davidson, and in this episode Leah and I explore practical nervous system regulation—what it is, why it matters, and how it gives you back agency. Leah, a speech-language pathologist and nervous system resilience coach, explains her simple "safety sequence" to assess external and internal safety and relax the body so clear thinking and choice can return.
This conversation is especially geared toward midlife women navigating change, anxiety, or relationship challenges. Leah emphasizes that you are not broken but brilliantly adapted, and she offers tools, resources, and an invitation to a free masterclass to help you recalibrate, set boundaries, and live more joyfully and intentionally.
More about Leah Davidson:
Midlife Recalibration Week March starting March 23, 2026:
https://www.skool.com/midlife-recalibration-week-7699/about
Midlife Nervous System Rewire Community
Advanced Training in Nervous System Resilience (waitlist - next training Sept
2026)
Mental Health Stationery Line:
Resilience Journal is available on Amazon here
My Safe Space Affirmation and Journal Prompt Cards are here.
You can visit her Resilient Brilliance Store to see all the products that are
available here.
International Retreats: If you are interested in any of my international retreats (Italy Fall 2026 or Portugal, 2027), please send me an email: leah@leahdavidsonlifecoaching.com
Building Resilience Podcast:
Youtube
Itunes
Spotify
Website: www.leahdavidsonlifecoaching.com
Instagram:@leahdavidsonlifecoaching
Facebook: @leahdavidsonlifecoaching
Clubhouse: @leahdavidson
 
Want More Clarity?
To join the Conflict to Connection Challenge: https://www.seasons-coaching.com/conflict-to-connection-30-day-challenge
Are you ready to take it to a deeper level?  Jill would love to be your coach!  
Click HERE to learn about all the ways you can work together!
Click HERE to schedule a FREE Clarity Conversation with Jill.
Click on the following links to learn more about Seasons Coaching and the Seasons of Joy Community Facebook Group.
To contact Jill about speaking to your group or business, email her at jill@seasons-coaching.com.
Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast and rate and leave a review! Help spread these tools!
About the Host: Jill Pack is a certified faith-based life + relationship coach and member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She helps women of faith navigate their seasons of life with greater purpose and joy including how to transform conflict into connection. For more resources or to work with Jill, visit www.seasons-coaching.com.

Jill Pack explores how to find real joy and grace even while relationships and conflicts remain unresolved. She invites listeners to notice the inner "verdict" that keeps them stuck, replace self-prosecution with curiosity, and choose peace through small, repeated decisions.
To join the Conflict to Connection Challenge: https://www.seasons-coaching.com/conflict-to-connection-30-day-challenge
Want More Clarity?
Are you ready to take it to a deeper level?  Jill would love to be your coach!  
Click HERE to learn about all the ways you can work together!
Click HERE to schedule a FREE Clarity Conversation with Jill.
Click on the following links to learn more about Seasons Coaching and the Seasons of Joy Community Facebook Group.
To contact Jill about speaking to your group or business, email her at jill@seasons-coaching.com.
Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast and rate and leave a review! Help spread these tools!
About the Host: Jill Pack is a certified faith-based life + relationship coach and member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She helps women of faith navigate their seasons of life with greater purpose and joy including how to transform conflict into connection. For more resources or to work with Jill, visit www.seasons-coaching.com.

In this episode, Jill Pack teaches how to make real repairs in relationships without collapsing into shame or deflecting responsibility. She explains the two common traps—over-apologizing to seek relief and apologizing with a “but” to avoid accountability—and why a regulated nervous system is the foundation for honest repair.
Mentioned on the podcast:
Episode 183 - Building Your Safety Foundation
Episode 185 - Growing Your Capacity Over Time
Episode 187 - Divine Identity in Conflict: Why Your Worth Isn't on the Line
Episode 188 - Allowing vs Forcing Part 1: Why We Do It and What It Costs
Episode 189 - Allowing vs Forcing Part: How to Actually Do It
Episode 192 - Shame vs Guilt: Why Knowing the Difference is Important
To join the Conflict to Connection Challenge: https://www.seasons-coaching.com/conflict-to-connection-30-day-challenge
Want More Clarity?
Are you ready to take it to a deeper level?  Jill would love to be your coach!  
Click HERE to learn about all the ways you can work together!
Click HERE to schedule a FREE Clarity Conversation with Jill.
Click HERE to check out her FREEBIES!
Click on the following links to learn more about Seasons Coaching and the Seasons of Joy Community Facebook Group.
To contact Jill about speaking to your group or business, email her at jill@seasons-coaching.com.
Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast and rate and leave a review! Help spread these tools!
About the Host: Jill Pack is a certified faith-based life + relationship coach and member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She helps women of faith navigate their seasons of life with greater purpose and joy including how to transform conflict into connection. For more resources or to work with Jill, visit www.seasons-coaching.com.

This episode explores the crucial difference between shame and guilt, drawing on Brené Brown’s research to explain how shame says "I am a mistake" while guilt says "I did something wrong."
Host Jill Pack shares personal stories from motherhood and coaching, and offers practical steps—name the feeling, regulate your nervous system, ask the guilt question, and bring in a compassionate witness—to move from shrinking to repair.
Designed for women of faith navigating family and faith transitions, the episode offers short, actionable tools to replace shame with growth, self-compassion, and connection.
Mentioned on the podcast:
Atlas of the Heart by Brené Brown
Episode 149 - Adding Self-Trust to the Progress Formula
To join the Conflict to Connection Challenge: https://www.seasons-coaching.com/conflict-to-connection-30-day-challenge
Want More Clarity?
Are you ready to take it to a deeper level?  Jill would love to be your coach!  
Click HERE to learn about all the ways you can work together!
Click HERE to schedule a FREE Clarity Conversation with Jill.
Click HERE to check out her FREEBIES!
Click on the following links to learn more about Seasons Coaching and the Seasons of Joy Community Facebook Group.
To contact Jill about speaking to your group or business, email her at jill@seasons-coaching.com.
Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast and rate and leave a review! Help spread these tools!
About the Host: Jill Pack is a certified faith-based life + relationship coach and member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She helps women of faith navigate their seasons of life with greater purpose and joy including how to transform conflict into connection. For more resources or to work with Jill, visit www.seasons-coaching.com.